True. But each of them are more or less polished enough for any user.
I mean pick one.
Give me the argument that this isn’t true.
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Yeah illustrator is a huge stretch there, you are right.
And as a graphic designer, I am shaking my head.
That really is never the way I looked at gimp since the beginning.
Nonesense. There is no easier to use and more functional desktop with great user experience than Linux. Been that way a long time. People are just used to poor UX and want more of it.
Edit: I would love to hear from the downvoters how windows, with its constantly changing interface, ads, poor file manager and poorly thought out workflow design is somehow better than linux. And stick with win 11 as that is the standard now.
As for Mac, talk about confusing. Where are your files? What is happening at full screen, what menu is doing what? I will say macs are great when you get used it, especially if you use keyboard shortcuts.
More downvotes for the truth. I have taken people who have barely used a computer before and tried them on Linux or windows. Windows is always a mess and does things in unsuspected ways or is missing a basic feature.
Linux works just fine, and out of the box from any current distro the environments are pretty much ready to go. That is just the truth.
Basic tools? Drawing in a photo editing tool? That doesn’t make any sense to me. Use krita and draw all you want.
Gimp works great for editing images. Krita works great for drawing on them.
Been using fedora on a laptop for a year with no command line intervention.
I don’t mind the command line, but it has been uneccesary.
Almost all maintenance tasks and fixes on windows come back to the command line. So I have no idea why people keep bringing it up about Linux.
I got blocked by someone here for the same idea that I thought was balanced: it is a useful tool, it makes it easy to share how to do something.
That’s it. Use it if you want, or don’t, but it’s not a negative thing. And I too don’t advocating sitting up at night reading man pages or anything…
Why would it? It’s a photo editing tool, not a drawing tool.
sshfs also works across the internet…quick and dirty file access from anywhere in the world.
I almost said that. It was my first thought. But then the people discussing it seemed kind of focused on local networks so…
I am not sure what to say, but maybe use something that already has done the work for you? I set up Open Media Vault 20 years ago and it has SMB shares built in. Ran it for 15 years with little to no intervention on my part.
Also, highly recommend keeping documents of how you set things up, including a link, if not a copy of the guide and the how and why you did what you did when making your own server. We do it on enterprise systems, I do it on home systems (if building from scratch).
tvOS app
Ah, I have never messed with that. Of course Apple makes it hard, lol.
What is missing? I have had no issues with it.
But you can use Steamlink as a remote desktop tool too. I do it all the time with my steamdeck in desktop mode.
I know this is just an example, but it is kind of funny.
User somehow sets up SMB shares on their network. Then is confused by the client?
this meme once again shows a Linux terminal command (that only works on specific distros)
sshfs only works on certain distros? Oh you mean the apt install part.
the button in the File Manager to add the network share to your left sidebar.
I just browse to the network location I want and right click on the view in the file manager and select “add to places”. It will be there on the sidebar until I remove it. Yes it is there after a reboot.
In the old days we just used X over SSH (xforwarding) and only sent the single application over, no desktop need by running on the host (well technically client as X is backwords).
I know the user experience difference is ridiculously bad trying to remote into Linux.
It isn’t. There are lots of tools for this, including using RDP. It is really easy actually. It is a graphical front end tool on KDE.
The “bad” part is that the user must already be logged in and the desktop opened because that is how linux works.
Speaking of modern: I usually just use moonlight for streaming and sunshine for hosting between machines that are on the same network because it is so simple and available in Fdriod for Android devices. You can share apps or the desktop.
You CAN configure wake on lan and run a script to auto log in a user (with moonlight) if you wanted to use it with a machine that is off, but I can agree that that is a few extra steps.
Oh so this is not a photoediting class I thought. So I launched Krita. And everyone laughed when they realized Photoshop was the wrong tool for the job.
We had icecream.
The funny thing is, every laptop I have does suspend without issue. I think for a brief period in 2014 I had a problem with a Zen book, but it got fixed.
As of today, in this office right next to me now: A chromebook, an HP and a Dell. All 100% linux laptops, all suspend. I did not have to do anything to make that work, it just did.
I always avoid Ubuntu, for whatever that’s worth.
Actually there is one funny thing: I picked up a laptop with Windows on it for a user going to a conference. It will not suspend. When you close the lid the fan just goes full blast and it is a space heater. We re-imaged it and it still does it. We just power it off now. It is a dell.
How was the gnome registry some how worse? Microsoft didn’t even have a document that could describe how theirs worked, much less an organizational structure. At least Gnomes was basically simple words and categories. And they built a settings manager for it too.
Not that I use gnome much, but still this is silly.
No they are more the rule. I have to deal with windows every day. I do all of it remotely using Linux. Because Linux just works and I don’t have time to deal with windows bullshit. Linux has been stable and reliable, particularly on my laptops where I do nothing but update or upgrade. My desktop has caused me a few issues over the years, been rolling Arch for 6 years or so, but I think that is to be expected.
Windows on the other hand, what a pain in the ass.
But I will agree that end users, in general are unlikely to use Linux over Windows in most cases. Not because Linux isnt ready, but that is what os their computer came with, that is what they are familiar with, and largely it is what they will make apologies for. I mean lets be real: most people don’t want a computer at all. I can’t blame them. My elderly mother vastly prefers her iPad over a computer no matter what the OS is on the computer.
I have a rolling desktop for the past 5 years and a laptop installed for the past one year on a stable release. I have none of that. Bookmarks? What do you mean by bookmarks and file browsers? I will agree that in some applications the GTK save dialogs while looking the same, do have a different sort order. But guess what? Windows does this too depending on the application.
Mine are pretty much the same, cant really tell the difference.
Never seen that before. Cursor stays the same. Again, you can add packages to windows that has similar issues.
That may be true, I don’t know. You think the average user is going to want an on-screen keyboard? Either way Plasma has one now.
2016 - 9 years ago you had issues with Pulse Audio? I guess I have had a few over the last 20. But Windows did as well. Hell my net work card on my laptop was half speed on windows 14 years ago, when in linux it worked fine.
I stand by what I said. You can make windows a shit show as well, hell the Windows pushed nvidia driver update this summer to friends computer meant all games go to black screen. Had to unsintall drivers, do a regedit, a little powershell and it was back. Yeah that was fun. Point is you can bork any computer.
I have done nothing with this laptop I am typing on except update it and add software. Everything is sensible: packages are organized. Files are were I want them and put them. Unlike windows I have a consistent and easy to use settings tool. I have a package “store” that also unlike windows doesnt try and override my choices.
There are no ads, no XBOX live icon that wont go away without hidden settings, no push to get me to a new account online just to use my computer, no regedit and powershell fuckery needed, no uninstall issues where if I deleted the package that created it, it wont go away. There is no co-pilot and AI crap, no MSN on the front page of my browser, no attempt to force me to use any particular browser. There is no double deep right click menus in my file manager and I have the choice of icons words or both on my dialogs. I don’t go to one settings tool and end up in a completely different one as I am making choices, like windows does. I can copy paste nearly every thing I see on screen in those dialogs too.
All the workflows are sensible. Clipboard that works out of the box and has memory, a better mouse pad with three and two finger consistency. File manager can drag and drop everywhere. Everything I do in windows is extra steps and a bit later: WHY!?
And the most important part? Everytime I take someone who really has never used a comptuer, windows confuses them. Linux confuses them too, but not nearly as much. They get it, they know what to click on and get things done in a fairly short amount of time.