Agreed! Having to manage that with the TTRPG group I run right now. Cutting it close.

What makes you say China is anywhere near as corrupt as the US, or corrupt enough to not be preferable over the US? Combatting corruption has been a core part of the PRC’s Political Economy over the last couple decades, combined with improving living standards, this has led to more Chinese citizens being more hopeful about where their country is headed.

Outside the realm of Political Economy, I really can’t stand it when people cancel plans last second, especially if they ghost. If you’re going to cancel on the group hangout, let us know!

We’re on lemmy.ml, lol. Preferring China over the US isn’t a Marxist stance alone, anymore, either.

Neither was Cuba or the DPRK, they have already been sanctioned. The tariffs are (supposedly) for countries the US actually does trade with.

China isn’t a dictatorship. It’s not a perfect utopian wonderland, but it’s certainly much better than the US, both for its people and other countries. China would absolutely be preferable.

Don’t we all…

You don"t have arguments, though. I have tried to get you to make some, but you haven’t, except for the times where you say things that are false, like the idea that Capitalists were the ones who beat the Nazis when it was the Red Army that killed 90% of the Nazis that were killed and took Berlin. I haven’t attacked you, I pointed out that, repeatedly, you make unbacked assertions that aren’t in line with reality, so I gently suggested you do more research.

Secondly, suggesting that Socialism is a form of Capitalism is the same as saying Capitalism is a form of Feudalism, and that Feudalism is a form of tribal society, just because these systems came before the other. That’s entitely incorrect, though it would be correct to say that Capitalism’s development drives Socialism to emerge, just as Feudalism’s development drove Capitalism to emerge.

As for highlights, I don’t really need to, the Eastern Front entirely eclipsed the rest of the combat combined, and the Soviets were the ones to take Berlin. No highlights are necessary, the Red Army gave by far the most and did by far the most in putting down the Nazis.

Yep, the US is losing its global power gradually.

You’re being extremely cagey. Why do you think the Nazis gained power? For what purpose? Moreover, they were overwhelmingly stopped by the Communists, 80% of the combat in World War II was on the Eastern Front. I don’t think you have a good grasp of what we are talking about, here.

It’s been very funny following this saga the past few days.

The Nazis were Capitalists. The Nazi party was largely made up of big business owners and other such people, the Nazis gained power that way. Nazism is a Politcal-Economic system, you cannot sepparate Politics from Economics.

I think you need to do more research on what we are talking about, especially because you haven’t explained why we can make the same meme about Socialism.

How? Please explain, I have asked you to elaborate several times. Nazism is a form of Capitalism, it isn’t distinct from it but merely the same underlying system in different circumstances. Socialism is entirely different, ergo you can’t make the same comparison.

In what manner? Again, what do you think Capitalism is, and why do you say Socialism could be considered a form of it? You’ve never answered that.

Over or under simplification depends on context. Even what I just described is the method by which they protected the big business owners and private property, and siezed the property of Jewish people and other targets of the Holocaust.

What do you think I’m leaving out? Simply saying it’s an oversimplification doesn’t really give me much to address, you have to tell me what I’m missing in saying it.

Less human nature, more a product of the material conditions at the time. Capitalism grew rapidly because of the Industrial Revolution, as an example.

The Nazis were deeply anticommunist, and tried to shift advancing hatred of the Bourgeoisie towards Jewish people. This is where the idea of “Judeo-Bolshevism” came from, the idea that Jewish peoples were heavily Communist, and why the Nazis depicted Jewish people as “greedy merchants and bankers,” somehow both Communist and significant portions of the Bourgeoisie. Deep irrationality is the core of Nazism.

Make no mistake, the Nazis were never pro-Palestinian. The Nazis have been always anti-Jewish and anti-Palestinian, as well as anti-Slav, anti-LGBT, anti-Black, etc. The Nazis have no connections to Palestinian liberation, only to its subjugation. Read To Stop Marx, they made Zion.

It suggests that they are the same system in different circumstances. We pin the sins of Capitalism on “Nazism” whenever Capitalism puts on the Nazi mask, and when it takes it back off we pretend the underlying system is different. The victims of Nazism are also victims of Capitalism, but the victims of Capitalism are not necessarily victims of Nazism.

As with all things, we can delve deeper or keep things straightforward. In the comparison to Capitalism, they function with much the same underlying basis, and in Nazi Germany there was a string of pro-Communist organization, such as the KPD, that the Nazis rose to power by millitantly opposing and murdering. The Bourgeoisie of Germany pre-Nazi had a fruitful partnership with the rising Nazis who were very helpful in killing off unions and other forms of labor organization.

The Nazis also had great ties to the US, UK, Italy, and other Capitalist countries. They even cooperated with Zionists in settling Palestine, which is why modern Israel has roots in fascism, continued to this day. The Nazis supported the formation of Israel because the Zionists were anti-yiddish and anti-communist, and because Israel would help serve as a bulwark against the Middle East. Theodore Herzl, one of the founding Zionists, once wrote "It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites as liquidators of [Jewish] property. To the people they would vouch for the fact that we do not want to bring about the impoverishment of the countries we leave. The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies.”

“Similar” seems to have quite a large range by your definition, one that I would say does not apply to the PRC and UK’s economies.