Boo you whore.

Glad I have a PC. Again.

Red Strings Club and Midnight Ramen are two more. I loved both.

You’ve done no such thing. You’ve been sitting here licking corpo boot. No sources or valid points just flippant dismissals, anecdotal musings, and bitching that no one is paying attention to what you are saying. You are way off base in this back and forth with them.

Right on, I’ll have to check out proxmox, i don’t have any experience with it yet. That’d be dope to switch at least one computer over to something linix based.

Yeah I know OneDrive is a bad option anymore. I’m definitely looking for options there but nothing is coming close so far. Hardest part is space but each requirement presents an issue.

Thanks for telling me about openoffice, looking at things i think i meamt Only Office. Any opinions there? I’m not keen on the AI push but it also seems optional. Thanks for the positive endorsement for Libre being compatible in an office setting. Looks like they have a good dark mode too which I’m very happy about. I love having a black background to write against and has stopped me from adopting things in the past. I can’t do white backed apps anymore. They hurt lol

The hosting is on my old desktop which is running server 2016. I’d like to replace the OS on it too. I don’t keep the box online so I’m not keen on using it for anything other than game servers.

Appreciate you not going aggro on me over it. Lots of times I mention not being quite there for migrating it gets into this really aggravating back and forth where someone aggressively pushes Linux at me and doesn’t like that I’m not instantly on board or that I have reasons they don’t like. 🙄

I don’t want to get into a big debate on it so if you are just curious and have a couple suggestions I’m down to talk about it. But I’m tired of people telling me that my reasoning isn’t good enough for them. Like, great, thanks, glad you can be happy with it, but we aren’t the same person. So I’d prefer to avoid any conversation where I’m just told to suck it up and deal with something. I am working on finding alternatives but all the ones I’ve come across so far are coming up short in a way that’s non negotiable.

My biggest one is my O365 bundle with office apps, oneNote, and OneDrive.

I am going to be trying out libreoffice and OpenOffice this year to see if I can replace word and excel. Last time I tried they weren’t there for me.

OneNote is my second most vital. I’m looking at Notesnook at the moment but I’m really not enthused by a monthly price or the idea of self-hosting in a docker container. I’ve hated most note apps and OneNote was the only one I’ve clicked with so far. I refuse to touch markdown so that kills a lot of them. I’m taking notes with minor edits, and I refuse to add markdown to the process just to do that. I also will not be ok with a webapp. I don’t like webapps in general.

OneDrive is probably my most vital. I have 1TB for me and 1TB each for 5 family accounts. So 6TB total. And I definitely use the space. On top of that I rely heavily on its integration to the file explorer and the mfa locked personal vault section. I don’t want to deal with a web interface or separate app, outside of an authentication hook for the vault, just to access storage.

Outside of the 365 bundle, it’s mostly running dedicated game servers that have no Linux option. And that’s it I believe. Certainly the most impactful applications. I think most other things I run, I can find acceptable alternatives to or can run in wine or something similar without major issue.

It’s tricky because I have things that just don’t translate well to linux, or become considerably more expensive or time consuming to manage / deal with. Linux has a lot to offer and a lot of great. But I’m just going to keep running an out of date OS until I can switch.

Sounds like Blame! which is one of my favorite graphic novels

I’ve enjoyed JetBrains over either so far.

I bet! That’s a lot of technical info to sort through, understand and create.

Congrats!!

Depends on context. Most of the time it’s just a confirmation. You are reading your insecurities into it.

If I want to make it sarcastic I like 👍👁️👄👁️👍

It’s funny you listing out that experiment, because that’s more akin to the bullshit I run into with Linux when I need to fix some weird ass quirk. Tons if incorrect or outdated information, and forum assholes calling people idiots for not knowing and refusing to help or being autistically pedantic because you misspelled something. Support on either platform is a garbage experience. I haven’t denied that at all.

Granted it is becoming less true on 11. But I am not wrong about the rest. I run into abandonware that doesn’t work far more with Linux.

I’m aware not all software is consumer grade. And many depts like sci/lad/manufacturing/medical definitely have more to worry about with upgrades. Windows 11 is a shit show even at the consumer level, I’d hate to be managing a migration to it for an office, let alone any dept relying on custom hardware. But blaming windows for something that would just as easily happen on a linux machine is a bit disingenuous. Upgrades break shit across all the OSes. I’ve had to rebuild linux servers because an upgrade would break them and keeping them air gapped on a closed loop wasn’t an option.

Again though, those times are more exceptions than rules. I’m not saying Linux hasn’t come a long way. A lot of the distros I’ve worked with are much better than they were a decade ago. They just still aren’t the oobe needed to capture general end users.

But I can select nearly any software since Windows 7 and it will still work on windows 10/11. That is far less common on linux. It’s more a rule on windows with some exceptions vs linux being the inverse.

Support is stupid for both platforms. I don’t even want to touch that mess. Assholes and cunts on both sides and in different ways.

That example just proves my point further. No average joe is going to alter the execution policy because they aren’t running unsigned powershell scripts. They just want their applications to install and work. They don’t want to debug shit. You being fine doing all that is great but other people don’t want to mess with it and won’t.

Half the time instead of downloading and running an executable that works with nearly all versions of their OS, they have to figure out which os flavor they have since it’s not just “Linux” it’s Debian, Red Hat, Arch, Kali, Suse, CentOS, Mint, Pop, Ubuntu, etc. and then does it need to be compatible with gnome or kde or something else, then is the configuration even a supported option, oh wait it only supports versions newer than 5 years where anything older will fail, or only till 5 years ago and anything newer will fail. Or the one project that solved the issue stopped developing it 10 years prior and no longer works. Or there just plain isn’t a native app so now you have to try and find an alternative way to connect to a service you pay for that has an equivalent feature set and price.

Linux is a fractured mess overall. It is not user friendly. It is not out of the box ready. It’s a great option for someone technical that wants to type shit in a terminal. And it’s a bad option for anyone that doesn’t want to figure out what the magic words are that took the place of their double click.

You can definitely have your opinion. But seeing how so many people have a hard time switching to Linux because of this particular issue, I’d say your position on the subject is quesionable. There are hordes more people on Windows and Mac because they made things easier through accessible software. A large part of that was the GUI.

It is in mixed states of ready. Each distro has something it’s ready for and something it isn’t. It’d be nice if all the ready parts were in a single distro, but that’s an XKCD 927 issue. I am hopeful that Valve puts thought and effort into making SteamOS a solid desktop on top of a solid gaming platform.